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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee, should the interviewee appear modest, weaker and reserve (not show off) part of his/her repertoire? The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are, or those who don't look too different from themselves.
interviewing job-search
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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee, should the interviewee appear modest, weaker and reserve (not show off) part of his/her repertoire? The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are, or those who don't look too different from themselves.
interviewing job-search
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Can you explain why you would want to work for a company that's hiring less capable workers and then performing under your full ability? That seems like a loss for all involved.
– Erik
4 hours ago
the firm is good and the employers' qualifications r decent, not bad. but there happens to b 1 applicant that has a far better edu background
– feynman
4 hours ago
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You seem to assume that lesser educational background necessarily implies less smart. I got my PhD at age 60, after an industry career.. I don't think I magically became smarter then.
– Patricia Shanahan
30 mins ago
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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee, should the interviewee appear modest, weaker and reserve (not show off) part of his/her repertoire? The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are, or those who don't look too different from themselves.
interviewing job-search
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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee, should the interviewee appear modest, weaker and reserve (not show off) part of his/her repertoire? The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are, or those who don't look too different from themselves.
interviewing job-search
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Can you explain why you would want to work for a company that's hiring less capable workers and then performing under your full ability? That seems like a loss for all involved.
– Erik
4 hours ago
the firm is good and the employers' qualifications r decent, not bad. but there happens to b 1 applicant that has a far better edu background
– feynman
4 hours ago
2
You seem to assume that lesser educational background necessarily implies less smart. I got my PhD at age 60, after an industry career.. I don't think I magically became smarter then.
– Patricia Shanahan
30 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Can you explain why you would want to work for a company that's hiring less capable workers and then performing under your full ability? That seems like a loss for all involved.
– Erik
4 hours ago
the firm is good and the employers' qualifications r decent, not bad. but there happens to b 1 applicant that has a far better edu background
– feynman
4 hours ago
2
You seem to assume that lesser educational background necessarily implies less smart. I got my PhD at age 60, after an industry career.. I don't think I magically became smarter then.
– Patricia Shanahan
30 mins ago
1
1
Can you explain why you would want to work for a company that's hiring less capable workers and then performing under your full ability? That seems like a loss for all involved.
– Erik
4 hours ago
Can you explain why you would want to work for a company that's hiring less capable workers and then performing under your full ability? That seems like a loss for all involved.
– Erik
4 hours ago
the firm is good and the employers' qualifications r decent, not bad. but there happens to b 1 applicant that has a far better edu background
– feynman
4 hours ago
the firm is good and the employers' qualifications r decent, not bad. but there happens to b 1 applicant that has a far better edu background
– feynman
4 hours ago
2
2
You seem to assume that lesser educational background necessarily implies less smart. I got my PhD at age 60, after an industry career.. I don't think I magically became smarter then.
– Patricia Shanahan
30 mins ago
You seem to assume that lesser educational background necessarily implies less smart. I got my PhD at age 60, after an industry career.. I don't think I magically became smarter then.
– Patricia Shanahan
30 mins ago
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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee,
Wait, hang on. While this is a common assumption that reputed schools produce good grades, it does not necessarily imply that the second or third-tier schools are of lower grade. Moreover, it's not only the formal education that matters, there are many proficient engineers you'll meet who are self-taught (up to a very great extent). Some may not have a prestigious alma mater, but they may certainly have brilliant on-job work experience and learning.
The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are.
That's almost never true, rather quite the opposite. If I'm hiring someone, I'd expect a smart and capable person, not a "weaker and reserve" one.
To add, don't judge your interviewer by their background - in an interview, always give your best shot.
That said, when you say "all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds...." - maybe you should be worried about the organization and their work, not the individuals.
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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Here's something you probably haven't realized yet:
1 year in the workforce is equivalent to about 3 years in college. You divide your attention in college. You are given problems that the answers to are already known (unless you're pursuing doctoral / PHD degrees), and there is far less "on the line" than in a real job.
The one advantage "good schools" have is a lifelong network of other graduates that you share a connection with.
That person who's been working 5 years from "Average Joe Tech" knows as much, if not more than any high-end bachelor's degree holder, and he knows more about what is needed in that situation than ANY applicant could possible glean from a job description.
So you go in there with your best shot, but you go in there understanding that they need you to fit the job, and they're not going to make the job fit you.
I've hired good and bad graduates with "top school degrees," but I've also hired a fair number of people with no or unrelated degrees who turned into phenomenal individual contributors.
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
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The candidate should behave reasonably, regardless of the interviewers.
Think about this: how should Einstein behave during a job interview? Of course, almost everybody on Earth would look stupid by comparison, regardless of University degrees.
By "reasonably" I mean:
- be polite and civilized;
- answer the answers as truthfully as possible, while selling yourself in the best way possible;
- do not boast about yourself;
- let the interviewers deal with what / who they want to hire for the job they have to offer.
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
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While you don't want to appear arrogant or a "show-off" there's no reason to appear weaker or less intelligent/capable then you actually are.
I always want to hire the best person for the job, regardless of their relative intelligence vis a vis myself, in fact hiring people smarter than yourself is what we call "good management".
answered 2 hours ago
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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee,
Wait, hang on. While this is a common assumption that reputed schools produce good grades, it does not necessarily imply that the second or third-tier schools are of lower grade. Moreover, it's not only the formal education that matters, there are many proficient engineers you'll meet who are self-taught (up to a very great extent). Some may not have a prestigious alma mater, but they may certainly have brilliant on-job work experience and learning.
The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are.
That's almost never true, rather quite the opposite. If I'm hiring someone, I'd expect a smart and capable person, not a "weaker and reserve" one.
To add, don't judge your interviewer by their background - in an interview, always give your best shot.
That said, when you say "all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds...." - maybe you should be worried about the organization and their work, not the individuals.
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee,
Wait, hang on. While this is a common assumption that reputed schools produce good grades, it does not necessarily imply that the second or third-tier schools are of lower grade. Moreover, it's not only the formal education that matters, there are many proficient engineers you'll meet who are self-taught (up to a very great extent). Some may not have a prestigious alma mater, but they may certainly have brilliant on-job work experience and learning.
The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are.
That's almost never true, rather quite the opposite. If I'm hiring someone, I'd expect a smart and capable person, not a "weaker and reserve" one.
To add, don't judge your interviewer by their background - in an interview, always give your best shot.
That said, when you say "all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds...." - maybe you should be worried about the organization and their work, not the individuals.
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
3,68811531
add a comment |
When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee,
Wait, hang on. While this is a common assumption that reputed schools produce good grades, it does not necessarily imply that the second or third-tier schools are of lower grade. Moreover, it's not only the formal education that matters, there are many proficient engineers you'll meet who are self-taught (up to a very great extent). Some may not have a prestigious alma mater, but they may certainly have brilliant on-job work experience and learning.
The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are.
That's almost never true, rather quite the opposite. If I'm hiring someone, I'd expect a smart and capable person, not a "weaker and reserve" one.
To add, don't judge your interviewer by their background - in an interview, always give your best shot.
That said, when you say "all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds...." - maybe you should be worried about the organization and their work, not the individuals.
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
3,68811531
When interviewing with a company where all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds from lower ranking schools than the interviewee,
Wait, hang on. While this is a common assumption that reputed schools produce good grades, it does not necessarily imply that the second or third-tier schools are of lower grade. Moreover, it's not only the formal education that matters, there are many proficient engineers you'll meet who are self-taught (up to a very great extent). Some may not have a prestigious alma mater, but they may certainly have brilliant on-job work experience and learning.
The reason behind is that employers might prefer hiring people less or as smart people as they are.
That's almost never true, rather quite the opposite. If I'm hiring someone, I'd expect a smart and capable person, not a "weaker and reserve" one.
To add, don't judge your interviewer by their background - in an interview, always give your best shot.
That said, when you say "all the interviewers have lower educational backgrounds...." - maybe you should be worried about the organization and their work, not the individuals.
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
3,68811531
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
3,68811531
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
3,68811531
answered 5 hours ago
Sourav GhoshSourav Ghosh
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3,68811531
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add a comment |
Here's something you probably haven't realized yet:
1 year in the workforce is equivalent to about 3 years in college. You divide your attention in college. You are given problems that the answers to are already known (unless you're pursuing doctoral / PHD degrees), and there is far less "on the line" than in a real job.
The one advantage "good schools" have is a lifelong network of other graduates that you share a connection with.
That person who's been working 5 years from "Average Joe Tech" knows as much, if not more than any high-end bachelor's degree holder, and he knows more about what is needed in that situation than ANY applicant could possible glean from a job description.
So you go in there with your best shot, but you go in there understanding that they need you to fit the job, and they're not going to make the job fit you.
I've hired good and bad graduates with "top school degrees," but I've also hired a fair number of people with no or unrelated degrees who turned into phenomenal individual contributors.
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
50k17108181
add a comment |
Here's something you probably haven't realized yet:
1 year in the workforce is equivalent to about 3 years in college. You divide your attention in college. You are given problems that the answers to are already known (unless you're pursuing doctoral / PHD degrees), and there is far less "on the line" than in a real job.
The one advantage "good schools" have is a lifelong network of other graduates that you share a connection with.
That person who's been working 5 years from "Average Joe Tech" knows as much, if not more than any high-end bachelor's degree holder, and he knows more about what is needed in that situation than ANY applicant could possible glean from a job description.
So you go in there with your best shot, but you go in there understanding that they need you to fit the job, and they're not going to make the job fit you.
I've hired good and bad graduates with "top school degrees," but I've also hired a fair number of people with no or unrelated degrees who turned into phenomenal individual contributors.
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
50k17108181
add a comment |
Here's something you probably haven't realized yet:
1 year in the workforce is equivalent to about 3 years in college. You divide your attention in college. You are given problems that the answers to are already known (unless you're pursuing doctoral / PHD degrees), and there is far less "on the line" than in a real job.
The one advantage "good schools" have is a lifelong network of other graduates that you share a connection with.
That person who's been working 5 years from "Average Joe Tech" knows as much, if not more than any high-end bachelor's degree holder, and he knows more about what is needed in that situation than ANY applicant could possible glean from a job description.
So you go in there with your best shot, but you go in there understanding that they need you to fit the job, and they're not going to make the job fit you.
I've hired good and bad graduates with "top school degrees," but I've also hired a fair number of people with no or unrelated degrees who turned into phenomenal individual contributors.
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
50k17108181
Here's something you probably haven't realized yet:
1 year in the workforce is equivalent to about 3 years in college. You divide your attention in college. You are given problems that the answers to are already known (unless you're pursuing doctoral / PHD degrees), and there is far less "on the line" than in a real job.
The one advantage "good schools" have is a lifelong network of other graduates that you share a connection with.
That person who's been working 5 years from "Average Joe Tech" knows as much, if not more than any high-end bachelor's degree holder, and he knows more about what is needed in that situation than ANY applicant could possible glean from a job description.
So you go in there with your best shot, but you go in there understanding that they need you to fit the job, and they're not going to make the job fit you.
I've hired good and bad graduates with "top school degrees," but I've also hired a fair number of people with no or unrelated degrees who turned into phenomenal individual contributors.
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
50k17108181
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
50k17108181
answered 4 hours ago
Wesley LongWesley Long
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answered 4 hours ago
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The candidate should behave reasonably, regardless of the interviewers.
Think about this: how should Einstein behave during a job interview? Of course, almost everybody on Earth would look stupid by comparison, regardless of University degrees.
By "reasonably" I mean:
- be polite and civilized;
- answer the answers as truthfully as possible, while selling yourself in the best way possible;
- do not boast about yourself;
- let the interviewers deal with what / who they want to hire for the job they have to offer.
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The candidate should behave reasonably, regardless of the interviewers.
Think about this: how should Einstein behave during a job interview? Of course, almost everybody on Earth would look stupid by comparison, regardless of University degrees.
By "reasonably" I mean:
- be polite and civilized;
- answer the answers as truthfully as possible, while selling yourself in the best way possible;
- do not boast about yourself;
- let the interviewers deal with what / who they want to hire for the job they have to offer.
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
add a comment |
The candidate should behave reasonably, regardless of the interviewers.
Think about this: how should Einstein behave during a job interview? Of course, almost everybody on Earth would look stupid by comparison, regardless of University degrees.
By "reasonably" I mean:
- be polite and civilized;
- answer the answers as truthfully as possible, while selling yourself in the best way possible;
- do not boast about yourself;
- let the interviewers deal with what / who they want to hire for the job they have to offer.
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
The candidate should behave reasonably, regardless of the interviewers.
Think about this: how should Einstein behave during a job interview? Of course, almost everybody on Earth would look stupid by comparison, regardless of University degrees.
By "reasonably" I mean:
- be polite and civilized;
- answer the answers as truthfully as possible, while selling yourself in the best way possible;
- do not boast about yourself;
- let the interviewers deal with what / who they want to hire for the job they have to offer.
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
answered 4 hours ago
virolinovirolino
2,168119
2,168119
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
add a comment |
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
good, but who knows how einstein behaved?
– feynman
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
@feynman anyone who knew him? He isn't some legendary being, there are still people alive today who met him. (Granted, the number is dwindling rapidly, but still. He died only 65 years ago.)
– Erik
4 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
It is not the point how he actually behaved - he probably did not get interviewed by the companies, but companies were interview by him. The example is related to OP's statement "interviewers have lower educational backgrounds" - in comparison with Einstein, even some real geniuses had lower educational backgrounds.
– virolino
3 hours ago
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While you don't want to appear arrogant or a "show-off" there's no reason to appear weaker or less intelligent/capable then you actually are.
I always want to hire the best person for the job, regardless of their relative intelligence vis a vis myself, in fact hiring people smarter than yourself is what we call "good management".
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While you don't want to appear arrogant or a "show-off" there's no reason to appear weaker or less intelligent/capable then you actually are.
I always want to hire the best person for the job, regardless of their relative intelligence vis a vis myself, in fact hiring people smarter than yourself is what we call "good management".
answered 2 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
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While you don't want to appear arrogant or a "show-off" there's no reason to appear weaker or less intelligent/capable then you actually are.
I always want to hire the best person for the job, regardless of their relative intelligence vis a vis myself, in fact hiring people smarter than yourself is what we call "good management".
answered 2 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
49.7k27133194
While you don't want to appear arrogant or a "show-off" there's no reason to appear weaker or less intelligent/capable then you actually are.
I always want to hire the best person for the job, regardless of their relative intelligence vis a vis myself, in fact hiring people smarter than yourself is what we call "good management".
answered 2 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
49.7k27133194
answered 2 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
49.7k27133194
answered 2 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
49.7k27133194
answered 2 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
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49.7k27133194
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Can you explain why you would want to work for a company that's hiring less capable workers and then performing under your full ability? That seems like a loss for all involved.
– Erik
4 hours ago
the firm is good and the employers' qualifications r decent, not bad. but there happens to b 1 applicant that has a far better edu background
– feynman
4 hours ago
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You seem to assume that lesser educational background necessarily implies less smart. I got my PhD at age 60, after an industry career.. I don't think I magically became smarter then.
– Patricia Shanahan
30 mins ago