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this is the situation:



messages sent to a DistributionGroup-Universal group are not delivered to the group members. The same message sent to the group + a directly member address is delivered just to that member. For example, here is a example with Get-MessageTrackingLog from a message:




sent: external user



to: group@mydomain.com[member1, member2, member3, member4], member1@mydomain.com




MessageId       : <0001>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:48
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :


you can see the 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded in the EXPAND event, and later the message is delivered just to member1, which is the only one user addressed in the e-mail out of the group. I believe the DUPLICATEDELIVER event is because member1 is addressed 2 times (inside the group and directly).



Finally, the e-mail was not delivered to the group members (and the sender didn't receive any NDR) and I don't understand why (it's a DistributionGroup-Universal, not DDG)



UPDATE:
I tried again (from a different external account) and now the e-mail was delivered first to member1, and after to all group members, except member1 because is a duplicate message. I believe this is the right behavior:



MessageId       : <0002>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail


The original problem happened the last week, concretely from only one external address, and I see others emails to the group (from others external users) had been delivered to all group members. I tried now the combination of group + member1, how was in the problematic message for check if the noise come from the duplicate message, but I see there is delivered to everybody, so, I don't know what can be...










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  • To be clear - if you send to the group alone, it doesn't work either? Is that with both internal and external senders?

    – Sembee
    Dec 20 '16 at 12:22











  • @Sembee, the group has permission for receive external e-mails. I tried again from an external account and it's working. I don't know if the problem is just with a concretely sender. I update the post with more info, please, take a look.

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 6:32











  • If another external account works, then that would suggest the issue isn't with the group. You need to establish the pattern - it could be the one source.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:42











  • Exactly, but what can be? The issue was with a client, so I can't be testing from his email. I tried with others external services (Gmail, Outlook) and look fine. During the weekend I updated and restarted the server... is the only thing come to my mind now

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:53











  • The usual problem is a cached entry - but if that was the case I wouldn't expect the email to be received by your server. If it is just a single client there is little you can do. Ask them to remove the cached entries. Depends if they are a regular sender or not.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 19:28
















0















this is the situation:



messages sent to a DistributionGroup-Universal group are not delivered to the group members. The same message sent to the group + a directly member address is delivered just to that member. For example, here is a example with Get-MessageTrackingLog from a message:




sent: external user



to: group@mydomain.com[member1, member2, member3, member4], member1@mydomain.com




MessageId       : <0001>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:48
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :


you can see the 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded in the EXPAND event, and later the message is delivered just to member1, which is the only one user addressed in the e-mail out of the group. I believe the DUPLICATEDELIVER event is because member1 is addressed 2 times (inside the group and directly).



Finally, the e-mail was not delivered to the group members (and the sender didn't receive any NDR) and I don't understand why (it's a DistributionGroup-Universal, not DDG)



UPDATE:
I tried again (from a different external account) and now the e-mail was delivered first to member1, and after to all group members, except member1 because is a duplicate message. I believe this is the right behavior:



MessageId       : <0002>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail


The original problem happened the last week, concretely from only one external address, and I see others emails to the group (from others external users) had been delivered to all group members. I tried now the combination of group + member1, how was in the problematic message for check if the noise come from the duplicate message, but I see there is delivered to everybody, so, I don't know what can be...










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  • To be clear - if you send to the group alone, it doesn't work either? Is that with both internal and external senders?

    – Sembee
    Dec 20 '16 at 12:22











  • @Sembee, the group has permission for receive external e-mails. I tried again from an external account and it's working. I don't know if the problem is just with a concretely sender. I update the post with more info, please, take a look.

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 6:32











  • If another external account works, then that would suggest the issue isn't with the group. You need to establish the pattern - it could be the one source.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:42











  • Exactly, but what can be? The issue was with a client, so I can't be testing from his email. I tried with others external services (Gmail, Outlook) and look fine. During the weekend I updated and restarted the server... is the only thing come to my mind now

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:53











  • The usual problem is a cached entry - but if that was the case I wouldn't expect the email to be received by your server. If it is just a single client there is little you can do. Ask them to remove the cached entries. Depends if they are a regular sender or not.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 19:28














0












0








0








this is the situation:



messages sent to a DistributionGroup-Universal group are not delivered to the group members. The same message sent to the group + a directly member address is delivered just to that member. For example, here is a example with Get-MessageTrackingLog from a message:




sent: external user



to: group@mydomain.com[member1, member2, member3, member4], member1@mydomain.com




MessageId       : <0001>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:48
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :


you can see the 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded in the EXPAND event, and later the message is delivered just to member1, which is the only one user addressed in the e-mail out of the group. I believe the DUPLICATEDELIVER event is because member1 is addressed 2 times (inside the group and directly).



Finally, the e-mail was not delivered to the group members (and the sender didn't receive any NDR) and I don't understand why (it's a DistributionGroup-Universal, not DDG)



UPDATE:
I tried again (from a different external account) and now the e-mail was delivered first to member1, and after to all group members, except member1 because is a duplicate message. I believe this is the right behavior:



MessageId       : <0002>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail


The original problem happened the last week, concretely from only one external address, and I see others emails to the group (from others external users) had been delivered to all group members. I tried now the combination of group + member1, how was in the problematic message for check if the noise come from the duplicate message, but I see there is delivered to everybody, so, I don't know what can be...










share|improve this question
















this is the situation:



messages sent to a DistributionGroup-Universal group are not delivered to the group members. The same message sent to the group + a directly member address is delivered just to that member. For example, here is a example with Get-MessageTrackingLog from a message:




sent: external user



to: group@mydomain.com[member1, member2, member3, member4], member1@mydomain.com




MessageId       : <0001>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:47
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :

MessageId : <0001>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 14.12.2016 19:03:48
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :


you can see the 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded in the EXPAND event, and later the message is delivered just to member1, which is the only one user addressed in the e-mail out of the group. I believe the DUPLICATEDELIVER event is because member1 is addressed 2 times (inside the group and directly).



Finally, the e-mail was not delivered to the group members (and the sender didn't receive any NDR) and I don't understand why (it's a DistributionGroup-Universal, not DDG)



UPDATE:
I tried again (from a different external account) and now the e-mail was delivered first to member1, and after to all group members, except member1 because is a duplicate message. I believe this is the right behavior:



MessageId       : <0002>
EventId : RECEIVE
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, group@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : EXPAND
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : 250 2.1.5 RESOLVER.GRP.Expanded; distribution list expanded
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : TRANSFER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member1@mydomain.com, member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus : {, , , }
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : {member2@mydomain.com, member3@mydomain.com, member4@mydomain.com}
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail

MessageId : <0002>
EventId : DUPLICATEDELIVER
Timestamp : 21.12.2016 7:05:02
Recipients : member1@mydomain.com
RecipientStatus :
MessageSubject : test mail


The original problem happened the last week, concretely from only one external address, and I see others emails to the group (from others external users) had been delivered to all group members. I tried now the combination of group + member1, how was in the problematic message for check if the noise come from the duplicate message, but I see there is delivered to everybody, so, I don't know what can be...







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  • To be clear - if you send to the group alone, it doesn't work either? Is that with both internal and external senders?

    – Sembee
    Dec 20 '16 at 12:22











  • @Sembee, the group has permission for receive external e-mails. I tried again from an external account and it's working. I don't know if the problem is just with a concretely sender. I update the post with more info, please, take a look.

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 6:32











  • If another external account works, then that would suggest the issue isn't with the group. You need to establish the pattern - it could be the one source.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:42











  • Exactly, but what can be? The issue was with a client, so I can't be testing from his email. I tried with others external services (Gmail, Outlook) and look fine. During the weekend I updated and restarted the server... is the only thing come to my mind now

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:53











  • The usual problem is a cached entry - but if that was the case I wouldn't expect the email to be received by your server. If it is just a single client there is little you can do. Ask them to remove the cached entries. Depends if they are a regular sender or not.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 19:28



















  • To be clear - if you send to the group alone, it doesn't work either? Is that with both internal and external senders?

    – Sembee
    Dec 20 '16 at 12:22











  • @Sembee, the group has permission for receive external e-mails. I tried again from an external account and it's working. I don't know if the problem is just with a concretely sender. I update the post with more info, please, take a look.

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 6:32











  • If another external account works, then that would suggest the issue isn't with the group. You need to establish the pattern - it could be the one source.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:42











  • Exactly, but what can be? The issue was with a client, so I can't be testing from his email. I tried with others external services (Gmail, Outlook) and look fine. During the weekend I updated and restarted the server... is the only thing come to my mind now

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:53











  • The usual problem is a cached entry - but if that was the case I wouldn't expect the email to be received by your server. If it is just a single client there is little you can do. Ask them to remove the cached entries. Depends if they are a regular sender or not.

    – Sembee
    Dec 21 '16 at 19:28

















To be clear - if you send to the group alone, it doesn't work either? Is that with both internal and external senders?

– Sembee
Dec 20 '16 at 12:22





To be clear - if you send to the group alone, it doesn't work either? Is that with both internal and external senders?

– Sembee
Dec 20 '16 at 12:22













@Sembee, the group has permission for receive external e-mails. I tried again from an external account and it's working. I don't know if the problem is just with a concretely sender. I update the post with more info, please, take a look.

– HEDMON
Dec 21 '16 at 6:32





@Sembee, the group has permission for receive external e-mails. I tried again from an external account and it's working. I don't know if the problem is just with a concretely sender. I update the post with more info, please, take a look.

– HEDMON
Dec 21 '16 at 6:32













If another external account works, then that would suggest the issue isn't with the group. You need to establish the pattern - it could be the one source.

– Sembee
Dec 21 '16 at 18:42





If another external account works, then that would suggest the issue isn't with the group. You need to establish the pattern - it could be the one source.

– Sembee
Dec 21 '16 at 18:42













Exactly, but what can be? The issue was with a client, so I can't be testing from his email. I tried with others external services (Gmail, Outlook) and look fine. During the weekend I updated and restarted the server... is the only thing come to my mind now

– HEDMON
Dec 21 '16 at 18:53





Exactly, but what can be? The issue was with a client, so I can't be testing from his email. I tried with others external services (Gmail, Outlook) and look fine. During the weekend I updated and restarted the server... is the only thing come to my mind now

– HEDMON
Dec 21 '16 at 18:53













The usual problem is a cached entry - but if that was the case I wouldn't expect the email to be received by your server. If it is just a single client there is little you can do. Ask them to remove the cached entries. Depends if they are a regular sender or not.

– Sembee
Dec 21 '16 at 19:28





The usual problem is a cached entry - but if that was the case I wouldn't expect the email to be received by your server. If it is just a single client there is little you can do. Ask them to remove the cached entries. Depends if they are a regular sender or not.

– Sembee
Dec 21 '16 at 19:28










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You have to allow unauthenticated senders:




  • In Exchange Management Console, right click the dist group and go to Properties.

  • Click the Mail Flow Settings tab and click Message Delivery Restrictions.

  • Click Properties.

  • In the Message Delivery Restrictions Properties, uncheck the box "Require that all senders are authenticated"


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  • Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

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You have to allow unauthenticated senders:




  • In Exchange Management Console, right click the dist group and go to Properties.

  • Click the Mail Flow Settings tab and click Message Delivery Restrictions.

  • Click Properties.

  • In the Message Delivery Restrictions Properties, uncheck the box "Require that all senders are authenticated"


Try it again.






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  • Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

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You have to allow unauthenticated senders:




  • In Exchange Management Console, right click the dist group and go to Properties.

  • Click the Mail Flow Settings tab and click Message Delivery Restrictions.

  • Click Properties.

  • In the Message Delivery Restrictions Properties, uncheck the box "Require that all senders are authenticated"


Try it again.






share|improve this answer
























  • Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:29














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You have to allow unauthenticated senders:




  • In Exchange Management Console, right click the dist group and go to Properties.

  • Click the Mail Flow Settings tab and click Message Delivery Restrictions.

  • Click Properties.

  • In the Message Delivery Restrictions Properties, uncheck the box "Require that all senders are authenticated"


Try it again.






share|improve this answer













You have to allow unauthenticated senders:




  • In Exchange Management Console, right click the dist group and go to Properties.

  • Click the Mail Flow Settings tab and click Message Delivery Restrictions.

  • Click Properties.

  • In the Message Delivery Restrictions Properties, uncheck the box "Require that all senders are authenticated"


Try it again.







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answered Dec 21 '16 at 15:56









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  • Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:29



















  • Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

    – HEDMON
    Dec 21 '16 at 18:29

















Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

– HEDMON
Dec 21 '16 at 18:29





Thank you Jarrod, please read my comment in the post. That was the first I controled :(

– HEDMON
Dec 21 '16 at 18:29


















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