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I recently was emailed from HaveIBeenPwned.com (which I am signed up on) about the ShareThis website/tool (not signed up on).



I have no memory of signing up for that service.



When I go to recover the account (I might as well close/change password), I get this:



reset password page for ShareThis, but with an error message that reads: 'No user with that Address. Need to Register?'



The two facts seem incongruous:



Either I had an account and it was pwned, or I didn't have an account (and thus HIBP is in error)?



How do I find out the true situation, and what is the most secutre course of action?










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  • Just making sure I understand this correctly. What you are saying is that you are signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com but not on the ShareThis website?

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago











  • @kasperd yes, sorry if that is not clear from my question

    – Pureferret
    9 hours ago











  • On my first reading of the question I thought you meant you were not signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com in which case the answer to your question would have been that somebody was forging emails from HaveIBeenPwned.com in what might have been a phishing scam. After reading the answer and reading the question again, I realized I probably misunderstood the question the first time around.

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    *pwnd --> pwned

    – jpmc26
    7 hours ago











  • The dumps might also contain contact/invite database entries, so if somebody has uploaded an address book or you did „send this to a friend“ it all could be possible reasons. Does it say the dump contains a password?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago
















35















I recently was emailed from HaveIBeenPwned.com (which I am signed up on) about the ShareThis website/tool (not signed up on).



I have no memory of signing up for that service.



When I go to recover the account (I might as well close/change password), I get this:



reset password page for ShareThis, but with an error message that reads: 'No user with that Address. Need to Register?'



The two facts seem incongruous:



Either I had an account and it was pwned, or I didn't have an account (and thus HIBP is in error)?



How do I find out the true situation, and what is the most secutre course of action?










share|improve this question

























  • Just making sure I understand this correctly. What you are saying is that you are signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com but not on the ShareThis website?

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago











  • @kasperd yes, sorry if that is not clear from my question

    – Pureferret
    9 hours ago











  • On my first reading of the question I thought you meant you were not signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com in which case the answer to your question would have been that somebody was forging emails from HaveIBeenPwned.com in what might have been a phishing scam. After reading the answer and reading the question again, I realized I probably misunderstood the question the first time around.

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    *pwnd --> pwned

    – jpmc26
    7 hours ago











  • The dumps might also contain contact/invite database entries, so if somebody has uploaded an address book or you did „send this to a friend“ it all could be possible reasons. Does it say the dump contains a password?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago














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I recently was emailed from HaveIBeenPwned.com (which I am signed up on) about the ShareThis website/tool (not signed up on).



I have no memory of signing up for that service.



When I go to recover the account (I might as well close/change password), I get this:



reset password page for ShareThis, but with an error message that reads: 'No user with that Address. Need to Register?'



The two facts seem incongruous:



Either I had an account and it was pwned, or I didn't have an account (and thus HIBP is in error)?



How do I find out the true situation, and what is the most secutre course of action?










share|improve this question
















I recently was emailed from HaveIBeenPwned.com (which I am signed up on) about the ShareThis website/tool (not signed up on).



I have no memory of signing up for that service.



When I go to recover the account (I might as well close/change password), I get this:



reset password page for ShareThis, but with an error message that reads: 'No user with that Address. Need to Register?'



The two facts seem incongruous:



Either I had an account and it was pwned, or I didn't have an account (and thus HIBP is in error)?



How do I find out the true situation, and what is the most secutre course of action?







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  • Just making sure I understand this correctly. What you are saying is that you are signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com but not on the ShareThis website?

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago











  • @kasperd yes, sorry if that is not clear from my question

    – Pureferret
    9 hours ago











  • On my first reading of the question I thought you meant you were not signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com in which case the answer to your question would have been that somebody was forging emails from HaveIBeenPwned.com in what might have been a phishing scam. After reading the answer and reading the question again, I realized I probably misunderstood the question the first time around.

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    *pwnd --> pwned

    – jpmc26
    7 hours ago











  • The dumps might also contain contact/invite database entries, so if somebody has uploaded an address book or you did „send this to a friend“ it all could be possible reasons. Does it say the dump contains a password?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago



















  • Just making sure I understand this correctly. What you are saying is that you are signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com but not on the ShareThis website?

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago











  • @kasperd yes, sorry if that is not clear from my question

    – Pureferret
    9 hours ago











  • On my first reading of the question I thought you meant you were not signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com in which case the answer to your question would have been that somebody was forging emails from HaveIBeenPwned.com in what might have been a phishing scam. After reading the answer and reading the question again, I realized I probably misunderstood the question the first time around.

    – kasperd
    9 hours ago






  • 1





    *pwnd --> pwned

    – jpmc26
    7 hours ago











  • The dumps might also contain contact/invite database entries, so if somebody has uploaded an address book or you did „send this to a friend“ it all could be possible reasons. Does it say the dump contains a password?

    – eckes
    6 hours ago

















Just making sure I understand this correctly. What you are saying is that you are signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com but not on the ShareThis website?

– kasperd
9 hours ago





Just making sure I understand this correctly. What you are saying is that you are signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com but not on the ShareThis website?

– kasperd
9 hours ago













@kasperd yes, sorry if that is not clear from my question

– Pureferret
9 hours ago





@kasperd yes, sorry if that is not clear from my question

– Pureferret
9 hours ago













On my first reading of the question I thought you meant you were not signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com in which case the answer to your question would have been that somebody was forging emails from HaveIBeenPwned.com in what might have been a phishing scam. After reading the answer and reading the question again, I realized I probably misunderstood the question the first time around.

– kasperd
9 hours ago





On my first reading of the question I thought you meant you were not signed up on HaveIBeenPwned.com in which case the answer to your question would have been that somebody was forging emails from HaveIBeenPwned.com in what might have been a phishing scam. After reading the answer and reading the question again, I realized I probably misunderstood the question the first time around.

– kasperd
9 hours ago




1




1





*pwnd --> pwned

– jpmc26
7 hours ago





*pwnd --> pwned

– jpmc26
7 hours ago













The dumps might also contain contact/invite database entries, so if somebody has uploaded an address book or you did „send this to a friend“ it all could be possible reasons. Does it say the dump contains a password?

– eckes
6 hours ago





The dumps might also contain contact/invite database entries, so if somebody has uploaded an address book or you did „send this to a friend“ it all could be possible reasons. Does it say the dump contains a password?

– eckes
6 hours ago










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From the FAQ:




Why do I see my email address as breached on a service I never signed up to?



When you search for an email address, you may see that address appear against breaches of sites you don't recall ever signing up to. There are many possible reasons for this including your data having been acquired by another service, the service rebranding itself as something else or someone else signing you up. For a more comprehensive overview, see Why am I in a data breach for a site I never signed up to?




It's likely some services allow signing up without confirming an email address, or that accounts that haven't confirmed email addresses are still stored indefinitely but cannot be logged in to, or any number of similar issues.






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  • 7





    One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

    – DrakaSAN
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

    – bta
    7 hours ago











  • @Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

    – mtraceur
    2 hours ago











  • @mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

    – Qwertie
    1 hour ago











  • @mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

    – mckenzm
    44 mins ago



















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Adding on to what AndrolGenhald said, they have deactivated all accounts associated with the breach so theres a good chance it won't show up regardless:




ShareThis has already deactivated the ShareThis accounts potentially associated with this incident, so if you created an account prior to January 2017, you may no longer be able to log in.




https://www.sharethis.com/data-privacy-incident/






share|improve this answer





















  • 3





    Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

    – Pureferret
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

    – hairydresden
    8 hours ago













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From the FAQ:




Why do I see my email address as breached on a service I never signed up to?



When you search for an email address, you may see that address appear against breaches of sites you don't recall ever signing up to. There are many possible reasons for this including your data having been acquired by another service, the service rebranding itself as something else or someone else signing you up. For a more comprehensive overview, see Why am I in a data breach for a site I never signed up to?




It's likely some services allow signing up without confirming an email address, or that accounts that haven't confirmed email addresses are still stored indefinitely but cannot be logged in to, or any number of similar issues.






share|improve this answer



















  • 7





    One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

    – DrakaSAN
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

    – bta
    7 hours ago











  • @Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

    – mtraceur
    2 hours ago











  • @mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

    – Qwertie
    1 hour ago











  • @mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

    – mckenzm
    44 mins ago
















48














From the FAQ:




Why do I see my email address as breached on a service I never signed up to?



When you search for an email address, you may see that address appear against breaches of sites you don't recall ever signing up to. There are many possible reasons for this including your data having been acquired by another service, the service rebranding itself as something else or someone else signing you up. For a more comprehensive overview, see Why am I in a data breach for a site I never signed up to?




It's likely some services allow signing up without confirming an email address, or that accounts that haven't confirmed email addresses are still stored indefinitely but cannot be logged in to, or any number of similar issues.






share|improve this answer



















  • 7





    One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

    – DrakaSAN
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

    – bta
    7 hours ago











  • @Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

    – mtraceur
    2 hours ago











  • @mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

    – Qwertie
    1 hour ago











  • @mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

    – mckenzm
    44 mins ago














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48







From the FAQ:




Why do I see my email address as breached on a service I never signed up to?



When you search for an email address, you may see that address appear against breaches of sites you don't recall ever signing up to. There are many possible reasons for this including your data having been acquired by another service, the service rebranding itself as something else or someone else signing you up. For a more comprehensive overview, see Why am I in a data breach for a site I never signed up to?




It's likely some services allow signing up without confirming an email address, or that accounts that haven't confirmed email addresses are still stored indefinitely but cannot be logged in to, or any number of similar issues.






share|improve this answer













From the FAQ:




Why do I see my email address as breached on a service I never signed up to?



When you search for an email address, you may see that address appear against breaches of sites you don't recall ever signing up to. There are many possible reasons for this including your data having been acquired by another service, the service rebranding itself as something else or someone else signing you up. For a more comprehensive overview, see Why am I in a data breach for a site I never signed up to?




It's likely some services allow signing up without confirming an email address, or that accounts that haven't confirmed email addresses are still stored indefinitely but cannot be logged in to, or any number of similar issues.







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  • 7





    One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

    – DrakaSAN
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

    – bta
    7 hours ago











  • @Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

    – mtraceur
    2 hours ago











  • @mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

    – Qwertie
    1 hour ago











  • @mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

    – mckenzm
    44 mins ago














  • 7





    One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

    – DrakaSAN
    9 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

    – bta
    7 hours ago











  • @Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

    – mtraceur
    2 hours ago











  • @mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

    – Qwertie
    1 hour ago











  • @mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

    – mckenzm
    44 mins ago








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One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

– DrakaSAN
9 hours ago





One other possibility is that, more simply, the database where your address was found was a mix of multiple data leaks, with the majority of the data belonging to ShareThis.

– DrakaSAN
9 hours ago




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@Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

– bta
7 hours ago





@Pureferret The good part is that if you were included because (for instance) someone else mistakenly used your email address, then you don't have to worry about more sensitive information like passwords being leaked as well.

– bta
7 hours ago













@Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

– mtraceur
2 hours ago





@Pureferret This happens to me all the time. For some reason, some people keep registering accounts to various places with my primary email address. Sometimes I "forgot password" and lock them out, delete the accounts that way, or find contact information and tell them directly to stop using my email (within legal limits), usually I have to contact customer support for the service and demand that they disconnect my email from that account. There really needs to be some sort of public shaming for companies that do anything other than (re)send verification email to an unverified email.

– mtraceur
2 hours ago













@mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

– Qwertie
1 hour ago





@mtraceur From what I have seen the lack of verification is not even the result of low skill developers, its an intentional business choice to reduce friction for signing up to a service.

– Qwertie
1 hour ago













@mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

– mckenzm
44 mins ago





@mtraceur so your mates use your email address to give them a logon, and all the spam goes to you, charming...

– mckenzm
44 mins ago













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Adding on to what AndrolGenhald said, they have deactivated all accounts associated with the breach so theres a good chance it won't show up regardless:




ShareThis has already deactivated the ShareThis accounts potentially associated with this incident, so if you created an account prior to January 2017, you may no longer be able to log in.




https://www.sharethis.com/data-privacy-incident/






share|improve this answer





















  • 3





    Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

    – Pureferret
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

    – hairydresden
    8 hours ago


















21














Adding on to what AndrolGenhald said, they have deactivated all accounts associated with the breach so theres a good chance it won't show up regardless:




ShareThis has already deactivated the ShareThis accounts potentially associated with this incident, so if you created an account prior to January 2017, you may no longer be able to log in.




https://www.sharethis.com/data-privacy-incident/






share|improve this answer





















  • 3





    Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

    – Pureferret
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

    – hairydresden
    8 hours ago
















21












21








21







Adding on to what AndrolGenhald said, they have deactivated all accounts associated with the breach so theres a good chance it won't show up regardless:




ShareThis has already deactivated the ShareThis accounts potentially associated with this incident, so if you created an account prior to January 2017, you may no longer be able to log in.




https://www.sharethis.com/data-privacy-incident/






share|improve this answer















Adding on to what AndrolGenhald said, they have deactivated all accounts associated with the breach so theres a good chance it won't show up regardless:




ShareThis has already deactivated the ShareThis accounts potentially associated with this incident, so if you created an account prior to January 2017, you may no longer be able to log in.




https://www.sharethis.com/data-privacy-incident/







share|improve this answer














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  • 3





    Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

    – Pureferret
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

    – hairydresden
    8 hours ago
















  • 3





    Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

    – Pureferret
    8 hours ago






  • 2





    @Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

    – hairydresden
    8 hours ago










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Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

– Pureferret
8 hours ago





Well spotted... Seems like an unusual approach?

– Pureferret
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@Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

– hairydresden
8 hours ago







@Pureferret Unfortunately, I wouldn't know. I just got the email for our domain from HaveIBeenPwned today and was doing my reading on it.

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