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I'm having a hard time finding proper docs on the order in which the OpenSSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, given that all of the following are present:




  • key files with default names in ~/.ssh, e.g. ~/.ssh/id_rsa,

  • key files with non-default names that are configured to be used with a specific host via ~/.ssh/config,

  • keys managed by ssh-agent.


Are all of these locations always tried (provided that the host matches an entry in ~/.ssh/config), and in which order?



Background: I have ~/.ssh/id_rsa which can only be used to authenticate against server A, and I have another key managed by ssh-agent that can only be used to authenticate against server B. When trying to ssh to B, authentications fails, apparently because only ~/.ssh/id_rsa is tried. There does not seem to be a fallback to try the key managed by ssh-agent.










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    if you run ssh with -v it will tell you what it is doing.

    – Eddie Dunn
    May 11 '17 at 20:35






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    You can see actually used order by running 'ssh -v hostname'

    – AlexD
    May 11 '17 at 20:37











  • I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 6:14


















6















I'm having a hard time finding proper docs on the order in which the OpenSSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, given that all of the following are present:




  • key files with default names in ~/.ssh, e.g. ~/.ssh/id_rsa,

  • key files with non-default names that are configured to be used with a specific host via ~/.ssh/config,

  • keys managed by ssh-agent.


Are all of these locations always tried (provided that the host matches an entry in ~/.ssh/config), and in which order?



Background: I have ~/.ssh/id_rsa which can only be used to authenticate against server A, and I have another key managed by ssh-agent that can only be used to authenticate against server B. When trying to ssh to B, authentications fails, apparently because only ~/.ssh/id_rsa is tried. There does not seem to be a fallback to try the key managed by ssh-agent.










share|improve this question




















  • 2





    if you run ssh with -v it will tell you what it is doing.

    – Eddie Dunn
    May 11 '17 at 20:35






  • 1





    You can see actually used order by running 'ssh -v hostname'

    – AlexD
    May 11 '17 at 20:37











  • I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 6:14














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I'm having a hard time finding proper docs on the order in which the OpenSSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, given that all of the following are present:




  • key files with default names in ~/.ssh, e.g. ~/.ssh/id_rsa,

  • key files with non-default names that are configured to be used with a specific host via ~/.ssh/config,

  • keys managed by ssh-agent.


Are all of these locations always tried (provided that the host matches an entry in ~/.ssh/config), and in which order?



Background: I have ~/.ssh/id_rsa which can only be used to authenticate against server A, and I have another key managed by ssh-agent that can only be used to authenticate against server B. When trying to ssh to B, authentications fails, apparently because only ~/.ssh/id_rsa is tried. There does not seem to be a fallback to try the key managed by ssh-agent.










share|improve this question
















I'm having a hard time finding proper docs on the order in which the OpenSSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, given that all of the following are present:




  • key files with default names in ~/.ssh, e.g. ~/.ssh/id_rsa,

  • key files with non-default names that are configured to be used with a specific host via ~/.ssh/config,

  • keys managed by ssh-agent.


Are all of these locations always tried (provided that the host matches an entry in ~/.ssh/config), and in which order?



Background: I have ~/.ssh/id_rsa which can only be used to authenticate against server A, and I have another key managed by ssh-agent that can only be used to authenticate against server B. When trying to ssh to B, authentications fails, apparently because only ~/.ssh/id_rsa is tried. There does not seem to be a fallback to try the key managed by ssh-agent.







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    if you run ssh with -v it will tell you what it is doing.

    – Eddie Dunn
    May 11 '17 at 20:35






  • 1





    You can see actually used order by running 'ssh -v hostname'

    – AlexD
    May 11 '17 at 20:37











  • I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 6:14














  • 2





    if you run ssh with -v it will tell you what it is doing.

    – Eddie Dunn
    May 11 '17 at 20:35






  • 1





    You can see actually used order by running 'ssh -v hostname'

    – AlexD
    May 11 '17 at 20:37











  • I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 6:14








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if you run ssh with -v it will tell you what it is doing.

– Eddie Dunn
May 11 '17 at 20:35





if you run ssh with -v it will tell you what it is doing.

– Eddie Dunn
May 11 '17 at 20:35




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You can see actually used order by running 'ssh -v hostname'

– AlexD
May 11 '17 at 20:37





You can see actually used order by running 'ssh -v hostname'

– AlexD
May 11 '17 at 20:37













I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.

– sschuberth
May 12 '17 at 6:14





I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.

– sschuberth
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I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.




Use the source, Luke!



OpenSSH is open source so instead of trial-error, you can read the code to get better understanding what is going on there. ssh.c is a good place to start. It has a function load_public_identity_files(void), which takes care of this. In the first place, the keys from PKCS#11 (Smartcard, HSM) are used:



(nkeys = pkcs11_add_provider(options.pkcs11_provider, NULL,


and then the keys provided by options.identity_files:



for (i = 0; i < options.num_identity_files; i++) {


This variable is set in readconf.c:



if (options->num_identity_files == 0) {
add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA, 0);
add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA, 0);
#ifdef OPENSSL_HAS_ECC
add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA, 0);
#endif
add_identity_file(options, "~/",
_PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519, 0);
}


The real paths of the files are defined in pathnames.h:



#define _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR  ".ssh"
[...]
#define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_dsa"
#define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ecdsa"
#define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_rsa"
#define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519 _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ed25519"


To the background question:



This is exactly why the IdentitiesOnly option exists and why you should use it in the ~/.ssh/config if you have more than one key to manage. The ssh-agent identities are used after the default ones.






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  • While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 9:53






  • 1





    I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

    – Jakuje
    May 12 '17 at 10:09



















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If you want to see how SSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, you can run it with -v option.



In my case it looks like:



debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ecdsa
debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ed25519





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    I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.




    Use the source, Luke!



    OpenSSH is open source so instead of trial-error, you can read the code to get better understanding what is going on there. ssh.c is a good place to start. It has a function load_public_identity_files(void), which takes care of this. In the first place, the keys from PKCS#11 (Smartcard, HSM) are used:



    (nkeys = pkcs11_add_provider(options.pkcs11_provider, NULL,


    and then the keys provided by options.identity_files:



    for (i = 0; i < options.num_identity_files; i++) {


    This variable is set in readconf.c:



    if (options->num_identity_files == 0) {
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA, 0);
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA, 0);
    #ifdef OPENSSL_HAS_ECC
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA, 0);
    #endif
    add_identity_file(options, "~/",
    _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519, 0);
    }


    The real paths of the files are defined in pathnames.h:



    #define _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR  ".ssh"
    [...]
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_dsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ecdsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_rsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519 _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ed25519"


    To the background question:



    This is exactly why the IdentitiesOnly option exists and why you should use it in the ~/.ssh/config if you have more than one key to manage. The ssh-agent identities are used after the default ones.






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    • While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

      – sschuberth
      May 12 '17 at 9:53






    • 1





      I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

      – Jakuje
      May 12 '17 at 10:09
















    8















    I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.




    Use the source, Luke!



    OpenSSH is open source so instead of trial-error, you can read the code to get better understanding what is going on there. ssh.c is a good place to start. It has a function load_public_identity_files(void), which takes care of this. In the first place, the keys from PKCS#11 (Smartcard, HSM) are used:



    (nkeys = pkcs11_add_provider(options.pkcs11_provider, NULL,


    and then the keys provided by options.identity_files:



    for (i = 0; i < options.num_identity_files; i++) {


    This variable is set in readconf.c:



    if (options->num_identity_files == 0) {
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA, 0);
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA, 0);
    #ifdef OPENSSL_HAS_ECC
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA, 0);
    #endif
    add_identity_file(options, "~/",
    _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519, 0);
    }


    The real paths of the files are defined in pathnames.h:



    #define _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR  ".ssh"
    [...]
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_dsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ecdsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_rsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519 _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ed25519"


    To the background question:



    This is exactly why the IdentitiesOnly option exists and why you should use it in the ~/.ssh/config if you have more than one key to manage. The ssh-agent identities are used after the default ones.






    share|improve this answer


























    • While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

      – sschuberth
      May 12 '17 at 9:53






    • 1





      I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

      – Jakuje
      May 12 '17 at 10:09














    8












    8








    8








    I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.




    Use the source, Luke!



    OpenSSH is open source so instead of trial-error, you can read the code to get better understanding what is going on there. ssh.c is a good place to start. It has a function load_public_identity_files(void), which takes care of this. In the first place, the keys from PKCS#11 (Smartcard, HSM) are used:



    (nkeys = pkcs11_add_provider(options.pkcs11_provider, NULL,


    and then the keys provided by options.identity_files:



    for (i = 0; i < options.num_identity_files; i++) {


    This variable is set in readconf.c:



    if (options->num_identity_files == 0) {
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA, 0);
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA, 0);
    #ifdef OPENSSL_HAS_ECC
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA, 0);
    #endif
    add_identity_file(options, "~/",
    _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519, 0);
    }


    The real paths of the files are defined in pathnames.h:



    #define _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR  ".ssh"
    [...]
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_dsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ecdsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_rsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519 _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ed25519"


    To the background question:



    This is exactly why the IdentitiesOnly option exists and why you should use it in the ~/.ssh/config if you have more than one key to manage. The ssh-agent identities are used after the default ones.






    share|improve this answer
















    I know about the -v, -vv etc. options, but I'd like to know before I try how ssh is going to behave. There must be a saner method to find out than trial and error.




    Use the source, Luke!



    OpenSSH is open source so instead of trial-error, you can read the code to get better understanding what is going on there. ssh.c is a good place to start. It has a function load_public_identity_files(void), which takes care of this. In the first place, the keys from PKCS#11 (Smartcard, HSM) are used:



    (nkeys = pkcs11_add_provider(options.pkcs11_provider, NULL,


    and then the keys provided by options.identity_files:



    for (i = 0; i < options.num_identity_files; i++) {


    This variable is set in readconf.c:



    if (options->num_identity_files == 0) {
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA, 0);
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA, 0);
    #ifdef OPENSSL_HAS_ECC
    add_identity_file(options, "~/", _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA, 0);
    #endif
    add_identity_file(options, "~/",
    _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519, 0);
    }


    The real paths of the files are defined in pathnames.h:



    #define _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR  ".ssh"
    [...]
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_DSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_dsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ECDSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ecdsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_RSA _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_rsa"
    #define _PATH_SSH_CLIENT_ID_ED25519 _PATH_SSH_USER_DIR "/id_ed25519"


    To the background question:



    This is exactly why the IdentitiesOnly option exists and why you should use it in the ~/.ssh/config if you have more than one key to manage. The ssh-agent identities are used after the default ones.







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    • While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

      – sschuberth
      May 12 '17 at 9:53






    • 1





      I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

      – Jakuje
      May 12 '17 at 10:09



















    • While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

      – sschuberth
      May 12 '17 at 9:53






    • 1





      I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

      – Jakuje
      May 12 '17 at 10:09

















    While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 9:53





    While I appreciate you digging into the source code for me, that's not much saner (regarding the amount of work) than trial & error. I mean, this must be documented somewhere, as it's essential for configuring SSH correctly.

    – sschuberth
    May 12 '17 at 9:53




    1




    1





    I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

    – Jakuje
    May 12 '17 at 10:09





    I don't think it must ... it is quite implementation detail. Manual pages (for ssh and ssh_config) specify that these paths are used by default and it is enough for basic user. If you want to know the order, debug log is where you find it quite easily. If it is not enough, source is here for you.

    – Jakuje
    May 12 '17 at 10:09













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    If you want to see how SSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, you can run it with -v option.



    In my case it looks like:



    debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_rsa
    debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_dsa
    debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ecdsa
    debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ed25519





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      If you want to see how SSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, you can run it with -v option.



      In my case it looks like:



      debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_rsa
      debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_dsa
      debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ecdsa
      debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ed25519





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        If you want to see how SSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, you can run it with -v option.



        In my case it looks like:



        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_rsa
        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_dsa
        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ecdsa
        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ed25519





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        If you want to see how SSH client tries private keys for authenticating against a server, you can run it with -v option.



        In my case it looks like:



        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_rsa
        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_dsa
        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ecdsa
        debug1: Trying private key: /Users/atolkachev/.ssh/id_ed25519






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        answered May 11 '17 at 21:00









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