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The size of the MSI cache folder (C:WindowsInstaller) has grown substantially, and is now taking up way too much disk space on my (domain) computers. Can this folder be eliminated or shrunk?
Same question goes for:
C:WINDOWSWinSxS
(%SystemRoot%WinSxS
)
C:System32DriverStore
(%SystemRoot%System32DriverStore
)
installation disk-space-utilization msi uninstall windows-installer
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The size of the MSI cache folder (C:WindowsInstaller) has grown substantially, and is now taking up way too much disk space on my (domain) computers. Can this folder be eliminated or shrunk?
Same question goes for:
C:WINDOWSWinSxS
(%SystemRoot%WinSxS
)
C:System32DriverStore
(%SystemRoot%System32DriverStore
)
installation disk-space-utilization msi uninstall windows-installer
add a comment |
The size of the MSI cache folder (C:WindowsInstaller) has grown substantially, and is now taking up way too much disk space on my (domain) computers. Can this folder be eliminated or shrunk?
Same question goes for:
C:WINDOWSWinSxS
(%SystemRoot%WinSxS
)
C:System32DriverStore
(%SystemRoot%System32DriverStore
)
installation disk-space-utilization msi uninstall windows-installer
The size of the MSI cache folder (C:WindowsInstaller) has grown substantially, and is now taking up way too much disk space on my (domain) computers. Can this folder be eliminated or shrunk?
Same question goes for:
C:WINDOWSWinSxS
(%SystemRoot%WinSxS
)
C:System32DriverStore
(%SystemRoot%System32DriverStore
)
installation disk-space-utilization msi uninstall windows-installer
installation disk-space-utilization msi uninstall windows-installer
edited Sep 25 '18 at 18:06
Stein Åsmul
asked Nov 5 '14 at 11:56
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Summary
The directory
%SystemRoot%Installer
and its contents must never be meddled with. An unserviceable system almost always results. Same goes for WinSxS, Driver Store & GAC.
The real issue is disc space -
SSD drives
are still too small for comfort. Below are some suggested procedures you can use to regain
space in a safer way.
Using administrative installations is a general purpose measure to
reduce the size of the%SystemRoot%Installer
folder for future deployments. See bottom section.
Original & Long Answer
Below are the essential / most effective options summarized from this
original and messy answer: Trifles & Tricks: Obvious ways to free
up disc space on your system
drive (long).
Express: Urgent 5-Minute Space Reclamation
Storage: Insert a USB drive (low-profile if you want it connected permanently) or SD-card. Move the content of yourDownloads
andLargest Media folders
on there. UseUSB 3.X port!
(blue / red / teal).
Mongers Sweep: In Windows Explorer, select"Users folder"
(C:Users), pressF3
and select"Size: Gigantic"
(or very large). Move them away if found - with caution:
- Typically
ISOs
,Virtuals
,Movie files
,etc...
- Careful with:
Outlook PST files
!Database files
!
- Avoid
source code folders
andvirtual disks
(move whole folder only)!
Zap Re-downloadable Files?
iTunes?
,ISOs?
Zap clouded files?
(local cache)
Many further options below. Just the 5-minute emergency procedure I use myself (trivial options).
And obviously empty the recycle bin :-). Also quick to uninstall large, unused software packages.
And check root of C: for virtuals and similar uses. Most large files should be in profile hierarchy though.
Reclaim Disc Space - The Pragmatic Options
Recommended real-world quick-options for disc space reclamation:
General:
Removables & Disc Space Visualization
.
- Add a
low-profile USB drive
and / orSD-Card
to your laptop for "permanent", extra storage to move large files to. Generally not high-speed, use accordingly. Note! I find low-profile USB drives may run a bit hot under load. Not for heavy, continuous use IMHO.
Find Space Hogs
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDirStat. Visualization tool for disc space consumption. May run slowly on non-SSD disks. Shows what eats your disc.
- Add a
Option 0:
Clouding
. Obviously.OneDrive
,Dropbox
,Google Drive
, etc...
Option 2:Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool
. Purge Windows Update files & more.
Windows Key + Tap R, typecleanmgr.exe
and press Enter.- Select system drive and press OK
- Now click
Clean up System Files
then select system drive and press OK.
UPDATE Oct.2018: In their infinite wisdom Microsoft has added the "Downloads" folder as a cleanup option! This is pure lunacy, DO
NOT ENABLE! It deletes the whole downloads folder without question.
Option 7: Clean outDownloads
folder (all users).
- Move files to USB / SD / other partition.
- Change default Downloads location:
Right Click Folder => Properties => Location
. - One shared location for all users - if applicable?
Option 18:Compression
(selective folders?). In Folder Properties. May be ultra slow for old disks.
Option 19:Uninstall unnecessary software
. Runappwiz.cpl
from Windows Key + Tap R
High risk option: Delete outdated and obsolete recovery partition(s) and create a usable partition in its place to keep data on.
Very effective when combined with options
1 (My Documents)
&7 (Downloads)
&11 (Data Heavy Applications)
, etc... Can end in disaster if wrong partition is deleted - of course.To succeed deleting recovery partitions either
diskpart
(Windows) orgparted
(Linux) is likely needed (see "Alternative Approaches" in linked SO answer
).Not for the faint of heart or inexperienced
. Backup is essential!
Runners-Up: Option 4: Administrative Installation
is presented below. Maybe also check Option 3: (CCleaner)
(not without risk). And a final mention: you can turn off system restore as well (particularly for virtuals). Not listed in linked answer (max lenght).
Scavenging / Putting WinSxS on a Diet
The WinSxS folder - Win32 side-by-side assembly store is full of hard links (several shortcuts to the same "physical" file) and often obsolete versions that can never be used (superseded by policy and updates). You can run "Scavenging" - garbage collection for side-by-side Win32 assemblies.
"Find actual size" command that is available since Win 8.1 (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
This goes beyond all the hard links in there and finds the actual size of the WinSxS folder - and whether it should be cleaned up.
Run "Scavenging" (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool: cleanmgr.exe
seems to kick off "scavenging" sometimes. And there is a scheduled task (Win8 up) - kicking off cleanup. Slightly different from running the command. 30 days grace period before purging, and some timeout issues (ends after 1 hour, regardless).
Superuser: Why does the /winsxs folder grow so large, and can it be made smaller?
Administrative Installation
You can't safely delete these files, they are there to facilitate uninstall, modify and repair operations for the installed product. You can, however, greatly reduce the size of the cached MSI files by running an administrative installation (essentially a file extraction) of the MSI before installing it. Follow link above for description - you should put these extracted files on a network share.
The cached MSI files used to be small because they were stripped of their internal CAB files. However, starting with Windows 7 (MSI version 5) the MSI files are now cached full size to avoid breaking the file signature that affects the UAC prompt on setup launch (a known Vista problem). This may cause a tremendous increase in disk space consumption (several gigabytes for some systems).
Running admin install will extract the files from the CAB files embedded in the MSI, adjust the media layout in the Media table in the new MSI so that running it will use the extracted, external source files instead of internal CABs. The new and smaller MSI file used for installation is then cached on the system. This can save several gigabytes of disk space, depending on what installers you use, how many you have to install, how big they are, etc... Keep in mind that you must deal with the UAC prompt issue described above when using admin images since the extracted MSI is (normally) no longer signed, but from a reputable source (your own extraction).
The extracted files and the associated MSI file should be put on a network installation point along with all other installers to ensure files are available for repair operations. This is how most large corporations deal with installation anyway. Then there is no need for embedded CAB files in the cached MSI at all. SCCM and other deployment systems may also have other ways to ensure files are available for repair operations.
Some further links:
- Admin install, the built-in MSI support for file extraction
- Purpose of Administrative Installs
- How to speed up MSI installations
- Why does MSI require the original .msi file to proceed with an uninstall?
- The corporate benefits of using MSI files
2
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
1
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up theirC:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in theC:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space onC:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
Would be interesting to know if thecleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.
– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning upC:WindowsInstaller
.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
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Summary
The directory
%SystemRoot%Installer
and its contents must never be meddled with. An unserviceable system almost always results. Same goes for WinSxS, Driver Store & GAC.
The real issue is disc space -
SSD drives
are still too small for comfort. Below are some suggested procedures you can use to regain
space in a safer way.
Using administrative installations is a general purpose measure to
reduce the size of the%SystemRoot%Installer
folder for future deployments. See bottom section.
Original & Long Answer
Below are the essential / most effective options summarized from this
original and messy answer: Trifles & Tricks: Obvious ways to free
up disc space on your system
drive (long).
Express: Urgent 5-Minute Space Reclamation
Storage: Insert a USB drive (low-profile if you want it connected permanently) or SD-card. Move the content of yourDownloads
andLargest Media folders
on there. UseUSB 3.X port!
(blue / red / teal).
Mongers Sweep: In Windows Explorer, select"Users folder"
(C:Users), pressF3
and select"Size: Gigantic"
(or very large). Move them away if found - with caution:
- Typically
ISOs
,Virtuals
,Movie files
,etc...
- Careful with:
Outlook PST files
!Database files
!
- Avoid
source code folders
andvirtual disks
(move whole folder only)!
Zap Re-downloadable Files?
iTunes?
,ISOs?
Zap clouded files?
(local cache)
Many further options below. Just the 5-minute emergency procedure I use myself (trivial options).
And obviously empty the recycle bin :-). Also quick to uninstall large, unused software packages.
And check root of C: for virtuals and similar uses. Most large files should be in profile hierarchy though.
Reclaim Disc Space - The Pragmatic Options
Recommended real-world quick-options for disc space reclamation:
General:
Removables & Disc Space Visualization
.
- Add a
low-profile USB drive
and / orSD-Card
to your laptop for "permanent", extra storage to move large files to. Generally not high-speed, use accordingly. Note! I find low-profile USB drives may run a bit hot under load. Not for heavy, continuous use IMHO.
Find Space Hogs
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDirStat. Visualization tool for disc space consumption. May run slowly on non-SSD disks. Shows what eats your disc.
- Add a
Option 0:
Clouding
. Obviously.OneDrive
,Dropbox
,Google Drive
, etc...
Option 2:Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool
. Purge Windows Update files & more.
Windows Key + Tap R, typecleanmgr.exe
and press Enter.- Select system drive and press OK
- Now click
Clean up System Files
then select system drive and press OK.
UPDATE Oct.2018: In their infinite wisdom Microsoft has added the "Downloads" folder as a cleanup option! This is pure lunacy, DO
NOT ENABLE! It deletes the whole downloads folder without question.
Option 7: Clean outDownloads
folder (all users).
- Move files to USB / SD / other partition.
- Change default Downloads location:
Right Click Folder => Properties => Location
. - One shared location for all users - if applicable?
Option 18:Compression
(selective folders?). In Folder Properties. May be ultra slow for old disks.
Option 19:Uninstall unnecessary software
. Runappwiz.cpl
from Windows Key + Tap R
High risk option: Delete outdated and obsolete recovery partition(s) and create a usable partition in its place to keep data on.
Very effective when combined with options
1 (My Documents)
&7 (Downloads)
&11 (Data Heavy Applications)
, etc... Can end in disaster if wrong partition is deleted - of course.To succeed deleting recovery partitions either
diskpart
(Windows) orgparted
(Linux) is likely needed (see "Alternative Approaches" in linked SO answer
).Not for the faint of heart or inexperienced
. Backup is essential!
Runners-Up: Option 4: Administrative Installation
is presented below. Maybe also check Option 3: (CCleaner)
(not without risk). And a final mention: you can turn off system restore as well (particularly for virtuals). Not listed in linked answer (max lenght).
Scavenging / Putting WinSxS on a Diet
The WinSxS folder - Win32 side-by-side assembly store is full of hard links (several shortcuts to the same "physical" file) and often obsolete versions that can never be used (superseded by policy and updates). You can run "Scavenging" - garbage collection for side-by-side Win32 assemblies.
"Find actual size" command that is available since Win 8.1 (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
This goes beyond all the hard links in there and finds the actual size of the WinSxS folder - and whether it should be cleaned up.
Run "Scavenging" (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool: cleanmgr.exe
seems to kick off "scavenging" sometimes. And there is a scheduled task (Win8 up) - kicking off cleanup. Slightly different from running the command. 30 days grace period before purging, and some timeout issues (ends after 1 hour, regardless).
Superuser: Why does the /winsxs folder grow so large, and can it be made smaller?
Administrative Installation
You can't safely delete these files, they are there to facilitate uninstall, modify and repair operations for the installed product. You can, however, greatly reduce the size of the cached MSI files by running an administrative installation (essentially a file extraction) of the MSI before installing it. Follow link above for description - you should put these extracted files on a network share.
The cached MSI files used to be small because they were stripped of their internal CAB files. However, starting with Windows 7 (MSI version 5) the MSI files are now cached full size to avoid breaking the file signature that affects the UAC prompt on setup launch (a known Vista problem). This may cause a tremendous increase in disk space consumption (several gigabytes for some systems).
Running admin install will extract the files from the CAB files embedded in the MSI, adjust the media layout in the Media table in the new MSI so that running it will use the extracted, external source files instead of internal CABs. The new and smaller MSI file used for installation is then cached on the system. This can save several gigabytes of disk space, depending on what installers you use, how many you have to install, how big they are, etc... Keep in mind that you must deal with the UAC prompt issue described above when using admin images since the extracted MSI is (normally) no longer signed, but from a reputable source (your own extraction).
The extracted files and the associated MSI file should be put on a network installation point along with all other installers to ensure files are available for repair operations. This is how most large corporations deal with installation anyway. Then there is no need for embedded CAB files in the cached MSI at all. SCCM and other deployment systems may also have other ways to ensure files are available for repair operations.
Some further links:
- Admin install, the built-in MSI support for file extraction
- Purpose of Administrative Installs
- How to speed up MSI installations
- Why does MSI require the original .msi file to proceed with an uninstall?
- The corporate benefits of using MSI files
2
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
1
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up theirC:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in theC:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space onC:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
Would be interesting to know if thecleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.
– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning upC:WindowsInstaller
.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
|
show 1 more comment
Summary
The directory
%SystemRoot%Installer
and its contents must never be meddled with. An unserviceable system almost always results. Same goes for WinSxS, Driver Store & GAC.
The real issue is disc space -
SSD drives
are still too small for comfort. Below are some suggested procedures you can use to regain
space in a safer way.
Using administrative installations is a general purpose measure to
reduce the size of the%SystemRoot%Installer
folder for future deployments. See bottom section.
Original & Long Answer
Below are the essential / most effective options summarized from this
original and messy answer: Trifles & Tricks: Obvious ways to free
up disc space on your system
drive (long).
Express: Urgent 5-Minute Space Reclamation
Storage: Insert a USB drive (low-profile if you want it connected permanently) or SD-card. Move the content of yourDownloads
andLargest Media folders
on there. UseUSB 3.X port!
(blue / red / teal).
Mongers Sweep: In Windows Explorer, select"Users folder"
(C:Users), pressF3
and select"Size: Gigantic"
(or very large). Move them away if found - with caution:
- Typically
ISOs
,Virtuals
,Movie files
,etc...
- Careful with:
Outlook PST files
!Database files
!
- Avoid
source code folders
andvirtual disks
(move whole folder only)!
Zap Re-downloadable Files?
iTunes?
,ISOs?
Zap clouded files?
(local cache)
Many further options below. Just the 5-minute emergency procedure I use myself (trivial options).
And obviously empty the recycle bin :-). Also quick to uninstall large, unused software packages.
And check root of C: for virtuals and similar uses. Most large files should be in profile hierarchy though.
Reclaim Disc Space - The Pragmatic Options
Recommended real-world quick-options for disc space reclamation:
General:
Removables & Disc Space Visualization
.
- Add a
low-profile USB drive
and / orSD-Card
to your laptop for "permanent", extra storage to move large files to. Generally not high-speed, use accordingly. Note! I find low-profile USB drives may run a bit hot under load. Not for heavy, continuous use IMHO.
Find Space Hogs
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDirStat. Visualization tool for disc space consumption. May run slowly on non-SSD disks. Shows what eats your disc.
- Add a
Option 0:
Clouding
. Obviously.OneDrive
,Dropbox
,Google Drive
, etc...
Option 2:Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool
. Purge Windows Update files & more.
Windows Key + Tap R, typecleanmgr.exe
and press Enter.- Select system drive and press OK
- Now click
Clean up System Files
then select system drive and press OK.
UPDATE Oct.2018: In their infinite wisdom Microsoft has added the "Downloads" folder as a cleanup option! This is pure lunacy, DO
NOT ENABLE! It deletes the whole downloads folder without question.
Option 7: Clean outDownloads
folder (all users).
- Move files to USB / SD / other partition.
- Change default Downloads location:
Right Click Folder => Properties => Location
. - One shared location for all users - if applicable?
Option 18:Compression
(selective folders?). In Folder Properties. May be ultra slow for old disks.
Option 19:Uninstall unnecessary software
. Runappwiz.cpl
from Windows Key + Tap R
High risk option: Delete outdated and obsolete recovery partition(s) and create a usable partition in its place to keep data on.
Very effective when combined with options
1 (My Documents)
&7 (Downloads)
&11 (Data Heavy Applications)
, etc... Can end in disaster if wrong partition is deleted - of course.To succeed deleting recovery partitions either
diskpart
(Windows) orgparted
(Linux) is likely needed (see "Alternative Approaches" in linked SO answer
).Not for the faint of heart or inexperienced
. Backup is essential!
Runners-Up: Option 4: Administrative Installation
is presented below. Maybe also check Option 3: (CCleaner)
(not without risk). And a final mention: you can turn off system restore as well (particularly for virtuals). Not listed in linked answer (max lenght).
Scavenging / Putting WinSxS on a Diet
The WinSxS folder - Win32 side-by-side assembly store is full of hard links (several shortcuts to the same "physical" file) and often obsolete versions that can never be used (superseded by policy and updates). You can run "Scavenging" - garbage collection for side-by-side Win32 assemblies.
"Find actual size" command that is available since Win 8.1 (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
This goes beyond all the hard links in there and finds the actual size of the WinSxS folder - and whether it should be cleaned up.
Run "Scavenging" (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool: cleanmgr.exe
seems to kick off "scavenging" sometimes. And there is a scheduled task (Win8 up) - kicking off cleanup. Slightly different from running the command. 30 days grace period before purging, and some timeout issues (ends after 1 hour, regardless).
Superuser: Why does the /winsxs folder grow so large, and can it be made smaller?
Administrative Installation
You can't safely delete these files, they are there to facilitate uninstall, modify and repair operations for the installed product. You can, however, greatly reduce the size of the cached MSI files by running an administrative installation (essentially a file extraction) of the MSI before installing it. Follow link above for description - you should put these extracted files on a network share.
The cached MSI files used to be small because they were stripped of their internal CAB files. However, starting with Windows 7 (MSI version 5) the MSI files are now cached full size to avoid breaking the file signature that affects the UAC prompt on setup launch (a known Vista problem). This may cause a tremendous increase in disk space consumption (several gigabytes for some systems).
Running admin install will extract the files from the CAB files embedded in the MSI, adjust the media layout in the Media table in the new MSI so that running it will use the extracted, external source files instead of internal CABs. The new and smaller MSI file used for installation is then cached on the system. This can save several gigabytes of disk space, depending on what installers you use, how many you have to install, how big they are, etc... Keep in mind that you must deal with the UAC prompt issue described above when using admin images since the extracted MSI is (normally) no longer signed, but from a reputable source (your own extraction).
The extracted files and the associated MSI file should be put on a network installation point along with all other installers to ensure files are available for repair operations. This is how most large corporations deal with installation anyway. Then there is no need for embedded CAB files in the cached MSI at all. SCCM and other deployment systems may also have other ways to ensure files are available for repair operations.
Some further links:
- Admin install, the built-in MSI support for file extraction
- Purpose of Administrative Installs
- How to speed up MSI installations
- Why does MSI require the original .msi file to proceed with an uninstall?
- The corporate benefits of using MSI files
2
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
1
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up theirC:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in theC:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space onC:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
Would be interesting to know if thecleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.
– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning upC:WindowsInstaller
.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
|
show 1 more comment
Summary
The directory
%SystemRoot%Installer
and its contents must never be meddled with. An unserviceable system almost always results. Same goes for WinSxS, Driver Store & GAC.
The real issue is disc space -
SSD drives
are still too small for comfort. Below are some suggested procedures you can use to regain
space in a safer way.
Using administrative installations is a general purpose measure to
reduce the size of the%SystemRoot%Installer
folder for future deployments. See bottom section.
Original & Long Answer
Below are the essential / most effective options summarized from this
original and messy answer: Trifles & Tricks: Obvious ways to free
up disc space on your system
drive (long).
Express: Urgent 5-Minute Space Reclamation
Storage: Insert a USB drive (low-profile if you want it connected permanently) or SD-card. Move the content of yourDownloads
andLargest Media folders
on there. UseUSB 3.X port!
(blue / red / teal).
Mongers Sweep: In Windows Explorer, select"Users folder"
(C:Users), pressF3
and select"Size: Gigantic"
(or very large). Move them away if found - with caution:
- Typically
ISOs
,Virtuals
,Movie files
,etc...
- Careful with:
Outlook PST files
!Database files
!
- Avoid
source code folders
andvirtual disks
(move whole folder only)!
Zap Re-downloadable Files?
iTunes?
,ISOs?
Zap clouded files?
(local cache)
Many further options below. Just the 5-minute emergency procedure I use myself (trivial options).
And obviously empty the recycle bin :-). Also quick to uninstall large, unused software packages.
And check root of C: for virtuals and similar uses. Most large files should be in profile hierarchy though.
Reclaim Disc Space - The Pragmatic Options
Recommended real-world quick-options for disc space reclamation:
General:
Removables & Disc Space Visualization
.
- Add a
low-profile USB drive
and / orSD-Card
to your laptop for "permanent", extra storage to move large files to. Generally not high-speed, use accordingly. Note! I find low-profile USB drives may run a bit hot under load. Not for heavy, continuous use IMHO.
Find Space Hogs
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDirStat. Visualization tool for disc space consumption. May run slowly on non-SSD disks. Shows what eats your disc.
- Add a
Option 0:
Clouding
. Obviously.OneDrive
,Dropbox
,Google Drive
, etc...
Option 2:Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool
. Purge Windows Update files & more.
Windows Key + Tap R, typecleanmgr.exe
and press Enter.- Select system drive and press OK
- Now click
Clean up System Files
then select system drive and press OK.
UPDATE Oct.2018: In their infinite wisdom Microsoft has added the "Downloads" folder as a cleanup option! This is pure lunacy, DO
NOT ENABLE! It deletes the whole downloads folder without question.
Option 7: Clean outDownloads
folder (all users).
- Move files to USB / SD / other partition.
- Change default Downloads location:
Right Click Folder => Properties => Location
. - One shared location for all users - if applicable?
Option 18:Compression
(selective folders?). In Folder Properties. May be ultra slow for old disks.
Option 19:Uninstall unnecessary software
. Runappwiz.cpl
from Windows Key + Tap R
High risk option: Delete outdated and obsolete recovery partition(s) and create a usable partition in its place to keep data on.
Very effective when combined with options
1 (My Documents)
&7 (Downloads)
&11 (Data Heavy Applications)
, etc... Can end in disaster if wrong partition is deleted - of course.To succeed deleting recovery partitions either
diskpart
(Windows) orgparted
(Linux) is likely needed (see "Alternative Approaches" in linked SO answer
).Not for the faint of heart or inexperienced
. Backup is essential!
Runners-Up: Option 4: Administrative Installation
is presented below. Maybe also check Option 3: (CCleaner)
(not without risk). And a final mention: you can turn off system restore as well (particularly for virtuals). Not listed in linked answer (max lenght).
Scavenging / Putting WinSxS on a Diet
The WinSxS folder - Win32 side-by-side assembly store is full of hard links (several shortcuts to the same "physical" file) and often obsolete versions that can never be used (superseded by policy and updates). You can run "Scavenging" - garbage collection for side-by-side Win32 assemblies.
"Find actual size" command that is available since Win 8.1 (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
This goes beyond all the hard links in there and finds the actual size of the WinSxS folder - and whether it should be cleaned up.
Run "Scavenging" (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool: cleanmgr.exe
seems to kick off "scavenging" sometimes. And there is a scheduled task (Win8 up) - kicking off cleanup. Slightly different from running the command. 30 days grace period before purging, and some timeout issues (ends after 1 hour, regardless).
Superuser: Why does the /winsxs folder grow so large, and can it be made smaller?
Administrative Installation
You can't safely delete these files, they are there to facilitate uninstall, modify and repair operations for the installed product. You can, however, greatly reduce the size of the cached MSI files by running an administrative installation (essentially a file extraction) of the MSI before installing it. Follow link above for description - you should put these extracted files on a network share.
The cached MSI files used to be small because they were stripped of their internal CAB files. However, starting with Windows 7 (MSI version 5) the MSI files are now cached full size to avoid breaking the file signature that affects the UAC prompt on setup launch (a known Vista problem). This may cause a tremendous increase in disk space consumption (several gigabytes for some systems).
Running admin install will extract the files from the CAB files embedded in the MSI, adjust the media layout in the Media table in the new MSI so that running it will use the extracted, external source files instead of internal CABs. The new and smaller MSI file used for installation is then cached on the system. This can save several gigabytes of disk space, depending on what installers you use, how many you have to install, how big they are, etc... Keep in mind that you must deal with the UAC prompt issue described above when using admin images since the extracted MSI is (normally) no longer signed, but from a reputable source (your own extraction).
The extracted files and the associated MSI file should be put on a network installation point along with all other installers to ensure files are available for repair operations. This is how most large corporations deal with installation anyway. Then there is no need for embedded CAB files in the cached MSI at all. SCCM and other deployment systems may also have other ways to ensure files are available for repair operations.
Some further links:
- Admin install, the built-in MSI support for file extraction
- Purpose of Administrative Installs
- How to speed up MSI installations
- Why does MSI require the original .msi file to proceed with an uninstall?
- The corporate benefits of using MSI files
Summary
The directory
%SystemRoot%Installer
and its contents must never be meddled with. An unserviceable system almost always results. Same goes for WinSxS, Driver Store & GAC.
The real issue is disc space -
SSD drives
are still too small for comfort. Below are some suggested procedures you can use to regain
space in a safer way.
Using administrative installations is a general purpose measure to
reduce the size of the%SystemRoot%Installer
folder for future deployments. See bottom section.
Original & Long Answer
Below are the essential / most effective options summarized from this
original and messy answer: Trifles & Tricks: Obvious ways to free
up disc space on your system
drive (long).
Express: Urgent 5-Minute Space Reclamation
Storage: Insert a USB drive (low-profile if you want it connected permanently) or SD-card. Move the content of yourDownloads
andLargest Media folders
on there. UseUSB 3.X port!
(blue / red / teal).
Mongers Sweep: In Windows Explorer, select"Users folder"
(C:Users), pressF3
and select"Size: Gigantic"
(or very large). Move them away if found - with caution:
- Typically
ISOs
,Virtuals
,Movie files
,etc...
- Careful with:
Outlook PST files
!Database files
!
- Avoid
source code folders
andvirtual disks
(move whole folder only)!
Zap Re-downloadable Files?
iTunes?
,ISOs?
Zap clouded files?
(local cache)
Many further options below. Just the 5-minute emergency procedure I use myself (trivial options).
And obviously empty the recycle bin :-). Also quick to uninstall large, unused software packages.
And check root of C: for virtuals and similar uses. Most large files should be in profile hierarchy though.
Reclaim Disc Space - The Pragmatic Options
Recommended real-world quick-options for disc space reclamation:
General:
Removables & Disc Space Visualization
.
- Add a
low-profile USB drive
and / orSD-Card
to your laptop for "permanent", extra storage to move large files to. Generally not high-speed, use accordingly. Note! I find low-profile USB drives may run a bit hot under load. Not for heavy, continuous use IMHO.
Find Space Hogs
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinDirStat. Visualization tool for disc space consumption. May run slowly on non-SSD disks. Shows what eats your disc.
- Add a
Option 0:
Clouding
. Obviously.OneDrive
,Dropbox
,Google Drive
, etc...
Option 2:Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool
. Purge Windows Update files & more.
Windows Key + Tap R, typecleanmgr.exe
and press Enter.- Select system drive and press OK
- Now click
Clean up System Files
then select system drive and press OK.
UPDATE Oct.2018: In their infinite wisdom Microsoft has added the "Downloads" folder as a cleanup option! This is pure lunacy, DO
NOT ENABLE! It deletes the whole downloads folder without question.
Option 7: Clean outDownloads
folder (all users).
- Move files to USB / SD / other partition.
- Change default Downloads location:
Right Click Folder => Properties => Location
. - One shared location for all users - if applicable?
Option 18:Compression
(selective folders?). In Folder Properties. May be ultra slow for old disks.
Option 19:Uninstall unnecessary software
. Runappwiz.cpl
from Windows Key + Tap R
High risk option: Delete outdated and obsolete recovery partition(s) and create a usable partition in its place to keep data on.
Very effective when combined with options
1 (My Documents)
&7 (Downloads)
&11 (Data Heavy Applications)
, etc... Can end in disaster if wrong partition is deleted - of course.To succeed deleting recovery partitions either
diskpart
(Windows) orgparted
(Linux) is likely needed (see "Alternative Approaches" in linked SO answer
).Not for the faint of heart or inexperienced
. Backup is essential!
Runners-Up: Option 4: Administrative Installation
is presented below. Maybe also check Option 3: (CCleaner)
(not without risk). And a final mention: you can turn off system restore as well (particularly for virtuals). Not listed in linked answer (max lenght).
Scavenging / Putting WinSxS on a Diet
The WinSxS folder - Win32 side-by-side assembly store is full of hard links (several shortcuts to the same "physical" file) and often obsolete versions that can never be used (superseded by policy and updates). You can run "Scavenging" - garbage collection for side-by-side Win32 assemblies.
"Find actual size" command that is available since Win 8.1 (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /AnalyzeComponentStore
This goes beyond all the hard links in there and finds the actual size of the WinSxS folder - and whether it should be cleaned up.
Run "Scavenging" (from elevated command prompt):
Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
Microsoft's Disk Cleanup Tool: cleanmgr.exe
seems to kick off "scavenging" sometimes. And there is a scheduled task (Win8 up) - kicking off cleanup. Slightly different from running the command. 30 days grace period before purging, and some timeout issues (ends after 1 hour, regardless).
Superuser: Why does the /winsxs folder grow so large, and can it be made smaller?
Administrative Installation
You can't safely delete these files, they are there to facilitate uninstall, modify and repair operations for the installed product. You can, however, greatly reduce the size of the cached MSI files by running an administrative installation (essentially a file extraction) of the MSI before installing it. Follow link above for description - you should put these extracted files on a network share.
The cached MSI files used to be small because they were stripped of their internal CAB files. However, starting with Windows 7 (MSI version 5) the MSI files are now cached full size to avoid breaking the file signature that affects the UAC prompt on setup launch (a known Vista problem). This may cause a tremendous increase in disk space consumption (several gigabytes for some systems).
Running admin install will extract the files from the CAB files embedded in the MSI, adjust the media layout in the Media table in the new MSI so that running it will use the extracted, external source files instead of internal CABs. The new and smaller MSI file used for installation is then cached on the system. This can save several gigabytes of disk space, depending on what installers you use, how many you have to install, how big they are, etc... Keep in mind that you must deal with the UAC prompt issue described above when using admin images since the extracted MSI is (normally) no longer signed, but from a reputable source (your own extraction).
The extracted files and the associated MSI file should be put on a network installation point along with all other installers to ensure files are available for repair operations. This is how most large corporations deal with installation anyway. Then there is no need for embedded CAB files in the cached MSI at all. SCCM and other deployment systems may also have other ways to ensure files are available for repair operations.
Some further links:
- Admin install, the built-in MSI support for file extraction
- Purpose of Administrative Installs
- How to speed up MSI installations
- Why does MSI require the original .msi file to proceed with an uninstall?
- The corporate benefits of using MSI files
edited 6 hours ago
answered Nov 5 '14 at 11:56
Stein ÅsmulStein Åsmul
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2,19121933
2
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
1
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up theirC:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in theC:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space onC:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
Would be interesting to know if thecleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.
– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning upC:WindowsInstaller
.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
|
show 1 more comment
2
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
1
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up theirC:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in theC:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space onC:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
Would be interesting to know if thecleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.
– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning upC:WindowsInstaller
.
– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
2
2
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
"You can't delete these files" -> You shouldn't delete these files, because doing so break stuff.
– Chris S
Nov 5 '14 at 16:31
1
1
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
Yes, deleting the files will cause the package to be uninstallable unless you have access to and can run the original installation media. Several other, serious problems will also surface with regards to patching, upgrades, repair, self-repair, etc... These are core OS resource files and must be left alone.
– Stein Åsmul
Nov 5 '14 at 16:33
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up their
C:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in the C:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space on C:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
At work, we've had a few Win10 PCs that have started to fill up their
C:
drive due to the remains of repeatedly failing Windows updates piling up in the C:WindowsInstaller
folder. I've fixed these by using the Media Creation Tool to create Win10 media on a USB stick, which I then used to do an 'upgrade' install of Win10 over top of the existing Win10 install. Works perfectly, unless you don't have enough space on C:
to do an 'upgrade' install, in which case you need to do some other cleanup first.– 3D1T0R
Sep 25 '18 at 21:03
Would be interesting to know if the
cleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
Would be interesting to know if the
cleanmgr.exe
(Microsoft Disk Cleanup Tool) would be able to clean that? It might not do so until after 30 days or something like that? I am not sure. The internal details of this tool remains mysterious, but it does a lot of things "under the hood". Seemingly different actions from time to time as well.– Stein Åsmul
Sep 25 '18 at 21:06
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning up C:WindowsInstaller
.– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
cleanmgr.exe
is always the first thing I do before I start digging into the rest of 'my space recovery tool kit'. In my experience, it's never done anything to help with cleaning up C:WindowsInstaller
.– 3D1T0R
Sep 26 '18 at 0:28
|
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